DoRzeczy.pl: The case of Ministers Kaminski and Vesik does not disappear from the forefront of the media. Does this have a negative impact on the perception of Donald Tusk's government?
Katzper Plazinski: It is difficult for me to judge whether it will have such an impact. I am not a sociologist, but a politician elected to improve the Republic of Poland. These actions that are being carried out now are a clear example of the decay of the Polish Republic, its institutions and socially understood justice. Tusk started his government by trashing certain laws as if they didn't exist, as happened with the law on the National Media Council. Which law will be next? This undermines the basic foundations of the rule of law, the foundations of the political system, and therefore ignores the final signature of the President on these acts, which ensures the protection of the Polish Constitution.
As for the issue of Ministers Wasik and Kaminski, this is the “i” point of this corruption in the procedural dimension and the continuation of the “Neumann Doctrine”. In the first instance, the gentlemen were tried by Judge Łączewski, who was forced to resign soon after because he was provoked by journalists and thought he was going to meet with Tomasz Lee to agree on a strategy on how to defeat PiS. In the second instance, the presiding judge was a judge from Justice, the most politically involved judicial organization. Today, membership of the judiciary is a political manifesto. Such judges were involved in making this absurd, scandalous, political verdict!
Is the verdict not fair?
Persons who were in charge of the services, who carried out provocations to check whether officials and politicians would accept bribes. And it was confirmed. Several officials who wanted to commit crimes as a result of this provocation of the CBA have already been legally convicted. Therefore, the provocation was effective and it was very good that it happened, because thanks to it, unscrupulous people quit their positions. On the other hand, other judges have punished the CBA leadership for daring to such a provocation! It is completely incomprehensible to me, such provocations are one of the tools that services use to prevent politicians from accepting bribes. This is something incredible. As a lawyer, I do not understand this decision. He literally applauds the Polish services, which have performed their tasks well. We all remember the cry of Beata Savicka. We are either on the side of Beata Savicka, who accepted the bribe, or those who want to purge people like Mrs. Savicka and make them disappear from political life. It is a zero-sum situation for all government officials.
In addition, there is also the issue of de facto deprivation of the prerogative of the president's power to pardon.
While studying law, I learned that the president can use the power of pardon both with a final and partial sentence, as the so-called. Individual Cancellation. I just checked my manual, it's still there. Today, many years later, I discovered that the professor who taught me this way was wrong. However, all this suggests that this atmosphere around the most uncompromising sheriffs of Polish politics is not accidental. If they go to jail, it will be revenge on certain elites, discredited circles and thugs for fighting them so effectively. Let us remind you that the land scandal affected the then head of the police, the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the richest Pole, who gathered on the 40th floor of the Marriott Hotel in Warsaw to resign – as indicated. with publicly available investigation files. Let's realize what powerful agreements Kaminsky and Vesik tried to break and what enemies they made.
You started the conversation by asking if this would affect Tusk's support. We must admit that in this matter experience wins over naivety. In this case, Tusk is not the main actor, but Shimon Holoun, who allowed himself to enter this channel and probably does not yet realize that he is dancing on the edge of law and ethics, and history may judge him in the future. what he does He may turn out to be the unsung hero of this whole situation, but he's really only playing the epilogue.
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